The US Submarine Force is Sunk

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When you look at the larger disaster of American arms and readiness, all the services are in the hazard of being mission ineffective. The US Navy surface fleet has been an unmitigated building debacle with the Little Crappy Ships, Zumwalt class and the USS Ford carrier not performing up to speed for any of the anticipated mission sets assigned to these failed programs.

I’ve often thought that the sole discriminator for the US military apart from the aging and decrepit USAF nuclear land-based missile forces and bomber organizations that sets the US apart is the submarine force and now the more I discover about the state of contemporary nuclear submarine construction, maintenance, readiness and improvements, the less convinced I am of the efficacy of the US submarine forces.

Jerry Hendrix wrote a disturbing essay on the state of the force and predictably, it is a hot mess.

His indictment is well-researched, terribly disconcerting and a dim prognostication for future strength.

…of the submarine force already in commission, sixteen of those forty-nine boats—or nearly a third of the Navy’s premier offensive force—are in dry-docks or tied to piers, lacking required dive certifications. These submarines cannot get underway due to a three-year maintenance backlog in the U.S. Navy.

The bottom line is that the American submarine force, the “point of the spear” of American power, upon which so many military plans depend, is unprepared to meet the current threat environment, and there are no quick fixes. It has taken decades—and a sequence of bad assump­tions and poor decisions—to fall into the current state of unpreparedness, and it will take years, as well as significant investments in both new ship construction and submarine repair capacity, to recover.

Thanks to CDR Salamander for introducing me to the splendid Hendrix essay.

He opines:

Back to the effects of bad assumptions. The issue really isn’t the bad assumptions. In all human institutions, you have imperfections and bad assumptions that don’t survive for long in the wild. The key is how fast you can notice the error, and then take corrective action. If you quickly execute bad assumptions, but then in an accretion-encumbered, happy-talk laden, and bureaucratically inept manner slow-roll the correction, well, you find yourself here.

I am less optimistic and think we have reached the point of no return; there is no recovery from this.

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52 Comments
varnel
varnel
May 25, 2024 1:23 pm

And I bet that backlog has nothing to do with the scamdemic lockdowns.

It’s already known 1/2 of airplane related incidents in the US this year have been due to ATC errors. Too many old timers took early retirement during the lockdown, and when travel resumed, they’ve been operating the insufficient staff working crazy hours.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  varnel
May 25, 2024 1:29 pm

There was a ‘close call’ that made the news a while back. ATC was black guy and a woman in the audio.

Somewhere around 2016-2018 there was a push to increase diversity. I see it is finally bearing fruit.

varnel
varnel
  Anonymous
May 25, 2024 1:44 pm

Oh I’m sure that has something to do with it too, but the FAA can’t publicly admit that, so they went with the above in what was released to the public.

No Thanks
No Thanks
  Anonymous
May 26, 2024 7:48 pm

DEI will be the final true and genuine NAIL in the COFFIN for this sad, dying, decayed mess we call America. Shame on our pathetic, feckless asses, SHAME on us!!!

zappalives
zappalives
  varnel
May 25, 2024 2:48 pm

Its only a matter of time before commercial jet crashes become common in merca.
Dont fly if you want to live !

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zappalives
May 25, 2024 5:25 pm

Fly yourself if you want to live!

fujigm
fujigm
  Anonymous
May 26, 2024 12:08 pm

Flying myself still has me talking to the tower.
And ground.
Ground should be talking to the tower when they clear you across an active.
Hopefully.
Been using smaller airports lately.
As always, head on a swivel.

Jay
Jay
  fujigm
May 26, 2024 1:15 pm

There are still some excellent air traffic controllers out there, but many newer controllers are overwhelmed by the sheer volume of traffic and don’t have enough experience to deal with it.

Jay
Jay
  Anonymous
May 26, 2024 1:10 pm

Use to be an airline pilot. Still have friends in the cockpits of airliners. I won’t get on an airliner anymore.

No Thanks
No Thanks
  zappalives
May 26, 2024 7:51 pm

I haven’t flown in about 10 plus years and have zero plans of probably ever flying again. the Gestapo I mean TSA is just too much garbage and incompetence for me to simply tolerate. I refuse to be treated like crap by a bunch of ultra low IQ hires that got jobs because they are idiots that are black or stupid females that have no business being outside of the home residence. They are so worthless and sad they cant ever be home makers anymore.

Jay
Jay
  varnel
May 26, 2024 12:38 pm

It’s true. The old timers are retiring and being replaced by political correctness. But it’s worse than that. There are far more aircraft in the skies these days. Many pilots and controllers are vaccinated and health compromised. Much of aviation is on the job training because a couple of generations of potential pilots were mistreated and others saw and refused the career altogether. Many of the maintenance and aircraft production facilities also required employees to take the vaccines. This means that they are compromised as well.

No Thanks
No Thanks
  Jay
May 26, 2024 7:54 pm

They have RUINED all of society with the CLOT-SHOTS!!! And the mongloids still get in line for BOOSTERS. You just cant make this $hit up I mean WTF people seriously.

T4C
T4C
May 25, 2024 1:26 pm

Biden’s $320M Gaza Pier Has Detached & Drifted Onto Israeli Beach
Humanitarian Aids Project?

More like Humiliation Aids Project.

zappalives
zappalives
  T4C
May 25, 2024 2:42 pm

Looks like 2 navy landing craft attempting to salvage the pier are also beached.
One fuck up after another for the democrat parties mighty faggot forces of Mockracy.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  T4C
May 25, 2024 3:10 pm

As has been pointed out before, this is just another humiliation, insult, and mockery of the USSA. particularly the Pentagram. On purpose to let you know just who is in-charge, giys.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  T4C
May 25, 2024 3:30 pm

Pretty sure Bracken predicted that exact thing.

IMN
IMN
  Anonymous
May 30, 2024 12:11 am

You said brak!

Ginger
Ginger
  T4C
May 25, 2024 6:37 pm

 “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

flash
flash
May 25, 2024 1:37 pm

If the Navy really wants to get back in the war game, they’ll need to clear a path for hiring more females, drag queens and foot foos. Clown World’s enemies will show US some YUGE respect then.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
May 25, 2024 1:49 pm

DEI requires at least 40% of all Navy ship’s crew be mermaids by Nov. 2025.
10% of those mermaids must be officers.

In response the army said all mounted calvary will now ride unicorns.

kfg
kfg
  Anonymous
May 25, 2024 7:08 pm

” . . . all mounted calvary will now ride unicorns.”

That will make for really pretty parades with all the rainbow farts.
I’d like to see the People’s Liberation Army match that!

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  flash
May 26, 2024 1:28 pm

They can recruit from the UCLA medical graduates.

Jay
Jay
  flash
May 26, 2024 1:40 pm

And all of the field combat trained German Shepherds will have to be retrained to bark “bowsy wowsy.”

IMN
IMN
  Jay
May 30, 2024 12:12 am

Or ballsy wallsy!

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 25, 2024 1:45 pm

So companies made money making garbage ships, and now they get to make money repairing subs or making new garbage? Win, win, win.

All we need now is a convenient port in the Black Sea where they can sit and be easy targets, as seems to be popular these days.

Fatman from Oz
Fatman from Oz
  Anonymous
May 25, 2024 4:54 pm

And even bigger money selling shit equipment to your ally Australia.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fatman from Oz
May 25, 2024 11:54 pm

Not MY ALLY!

*points at borneo on a map*

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 26, 2024 6:20 am

So companies made money making garbage ships

See Littoral Combat ships:

The Navy is mothballing several of the $500 million ships long before the end of their expected lifespans.
Littoral combat ships were supposed to launch the Navy into the future. Instead they broke down across the globe and many of their weapons never worked. Now the Navy is getting rid of them. One is less than five years old.

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-navy-spent-billions-littoral-combat-ship

IMN
IMN
  Anonymous
May 30, 2024 12:13 am

Littorally trash.

No no square
No no square
May 25, 2024 1:46 pm

🎶 We All Live On A Rainbow Sunk-marine 🎶

30 days in the hole
30 days in the hole
  No no square
May 25, 2024 2:49 pm

I’m on a submarine mission for you babe !!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
May 25, 2024 1:48 pm

We’re firmly in the realm of the fog of war at this point. Only the Captains and crews KNOW the exact status of their current capacities…and even that knowledge is compartmentalized within the crew itself.

Bottom line? You won’t whether it’s a dud or not until you light the fuse.

august
august
  The Central Scrutinizer
May 25, 2024 2:55 pm

For those, like myself, who never had the pleasure of military service, a quick review of the turret explosion, and 47 deaths, on the USS Iowa is a fascinating read: how it happened, the Navy “investigation”, and (of course) the attempted blame-shifting and ass-covering by all concerned.

For those who served, I suspect this sort of story is familiar enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_turret_explosion

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 25, 2024 1:53 pm

Matt Bracken said just days ago the pier would not survive late season swells and thus kinetic shit would need to happen soon.

Anonymouse
Anonymouse
May 25, 2024 2:07 pm

What do you do when your elected officials are traitors whose main interest is funneling money to a corrupt MIC blob for kickbacks? I say we start by hanging any Admiral in a skirt and progress to the Board rooms of Raytheon, Boeing and General Dynamics among others…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymouse
May 25, 2024 3:57 pm

Maybe move the Okinawa marine detachment to the Tex-Mex border, too.

Booger
Booger
May 25, 2024 2:07 pm

It’s all intentional, the treasonous generals and bureaucrats at the pentagram know exactly what they’re doing. No fighting force on earth can sustain a strategy of ECG, equity and inclusion as part of their mission statement and survive. We’re fucked folks, and there’s very little we can do about it now. Happy Memorial Day, it may be our last.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
May 25, 2024 3:41 pm

There is a reason it is called DIEversity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 25, 2024 3:50 pm

Great to see Bill write here. I miss his ZeroGov site, and his ended involvement with Lew Rockwell, as they had some sort of falling-out. Here are several archived columns of Bill’s over at Lew’s:
https://archive.lewrockwell.com/buppert/buppert-arch.html

Here’s one for Memorial Day and beyond:

The Quickest Route to Defense Privatization
https://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig4/buppert4.html

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
May 25, 2024 4:05 pm

Who has the most technologically advanced sub fleet? You get one guess.

Hint: It’s a country with 6 letters that begins with R and ends with A.

Rwanda ?
Rwanda ?
  lamont cranston
May 25, 2024 5:03 pm

Rwanda, officially the Republic of Rwanda, is a landlocked country in the Great Rift Valley of Central Africa, where the African Great Lakes region and Southeast Africa converge. Located a few degrees south of the Equator, Rwanda is bordered by Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi, and the Democratic … See more

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
  Rwanda ?
May 25, 2024 5:49 pm

Close but no see-gar. Funny!

In the Pipeline ? Nah...
In the Pipeline ? Nah...
May 25, 2024 4:57 pm

…just nearby when it broke.

🤣 This one replete with TRANNY christening!

Navy’s 85-Foot Orca Unmanned Submarine Will Be A …

“The Orca project dates back to September 2017, when the Navy awarded contracts worth about $40 million each to Boeing, which had previously partnered with HII to build unmanned submarines, and Lockheed Martin to develop competing designs for an extra-large unmanned underwater vehicle (XLUUV) capable of operating autonomously on missions lasting up to several months. In February 2019, the Navy awarded the Boeing/HII consortium a $43 million contract to begin construction of four XLUUVs, with a design based on Boeing’s previous Echo Voyager AUV. The following month, the Navy added a fifth vehicle to the order, bringing the total value of the contract to $274.4 million.”

Snakehead Will Be The Largest Underwater Drone That U.S. …

Navy’s Orca XLUUV to Have Mine-Laying Mission, Adm. Kilb…

drats! Rusty
drats! Rusty
  In the Pipeline ? Nah...
May 25, 2024 5:04 pm

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Jackie Puppet
Jackie Puppet
  drats! Rusty
May 25, 2024 11:06 pm

I bet it played baseball in its former life…

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
  In the Pipeline ? Nah...
May 25, 2024 5:52 pm

Boeing??? How long before one sinks or blows up?

Laying mines? More like laying eggs.

m
m
May 26, 2024 6:56 am

LOL, the last pillar of US’ “retaliation” capability dissipates into a cloud of Hopium.

WTF
WTF
May 26, 2024 7:35 am

Read: Lessons Not Learned by Roger Thompson.
That will tell you all you need to know about the US Navy.

Mick Goldman
Mick Goldman
May 26, 2024 1:16 pm

As Col. McGregor has indicated on the state of our Military: ‘Our Military is not the one we had in 1991’. I left in 1991 and at that time the Military Readiness was First Class !

No Thanks
No Thanks
May 26, 2024 7:46 pm

Folks We are so, so DONE, Finished, completely SCREWED!!! Nothing to see here so everyone stay seated and remain impotent, cuck do NOTHINGS. What could possibly go wrong?

Nimpcompoop
Nimpcompoop
May 27, 2024 3:39 am

Time to prepare the civilian farce. The 2nd Amendment militia and start to get well regulated. After you take care of the enemy you go after those that betrayed us, if you make it.

Afshin Nejat
Afshin Nejat
May 28, 2024 1:02 pm

It’s harder to fight wars for Israel this way!